It's kind of extremely difficult right now, to separate them up visually.

现在很难从视觉上将它们分开。

So it's sort of...the idea is that what we really need to do is we need to separate up two things.

所以我的想法是，我们真正需要做的是我们要区分两件事。

Now, I want to address this with you, and I want to separate it up front into two different conversations.

现在， 我想和你一起解决这个问题，我想把它分成两个不同的对话。