Interesting stuff from Kate Raworth there.

凯特·拉沃斯讲的东西很有趣。

Some designers would suggest that was hindering creativity, but to quote the economist Kate Raworth, " Boundaries unleash potential."

一些设计师会认为这会阻碍创造力的发挥，但引用经济学家 凯特·拉沃思“看似触及边界，实则潜力无穷。”

Economist Kate Raworth, who we will hear from shortly, describes this as " a picture of 21st Century prosperity for humanity" .

我们马上将听听经济学家凯特·拉沃斯是怎么说的，她描述其为" 21世纪人类繁荣的一幅图景" 。

So, here is Kate Raworth speaking on the BBC World Service programme, People Fixing the World, talking about how Amsterdam is trying to fit into this 'doughnut' approach.

下面是凯特·拉沃斯在 BBC 世界服务节目《修理地球的人》中谈论阿姆斯特丹是如何适应这个“甜甜圈”方法的。

Some designers would suggest that was hindering creativity, but to quote the economist Kate Raworth, " Boundaries unleash potential." Look at what Mozart did with a five-octave piano.

一些设计师会认为这阻碍了创造力，但引用经济学家凯特·拉沃斯的话来说，“边界释放潜力。 ” 看看莫扎特用五八度钢琴做了什么。